WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.593 --> 00:00:04.665 - This is it, right here. 2 00:00:04.665 --> 00:00:07.558 See this little drip, drip, drip? 3 00:00:07.558 --> 00:00:08.391 - Okay. 4 00:00:08.391 --> 00:00:10.792 - And listen for just a second. 5 00:00:10.792 --> 00:00:13.648 This is what has created this. 6 00:00:13.648 --> 00:00:15.648 (music) 7 00:00:37.714 --> 00:00:39.887 This little bit of water is the key ingredient 8 00:00:39.887 --> 00:00:41.472 for creating some amazing places 9 00:00:41.472 --> 00:00:43.194 that are right beneath our feet. 10 00:00:43.194 --> 00:00:45.422 We know about the paths that make for our landscapes 11 00:00:45.422 --> 00:00:46.682 with rivers and streams, 12 00:00:46.682 --> 00:00:50.679 but how about the pathways that water carves underground. 13 00:00:50.679 --> 00:00:52.938 We don't often see those hidden places. 14 00:00:52.938 --> 00:00:55.436 I'm John and I'm a big fan of caves. 15 00:00:55.436 --> 00:00:56.793 - And I'm Amtchat Edwards. 16 00:00:56.793 --> 00:01:00.172 I could talk shop about freshwater, trails, and trees, 17 00:01:00.172 --> 00:01:01.959 but I'm learning about caves. 18 00:01:01.959 --> 00:01:03.566 I work for the U.S. Forest Service 19 00:01:03.566 --> 00:01:07.030 which stewards 193 million acres of national forests 20 00:01:07.030 --> 00:01:08.926 and grasslands throughout the nation, 21 00:01:08.926 --> 00:01:11.495 including thousands of caves and springs. 22 00:01:11.495 --> 00:01:13.837 These are all public lands so if you think about it, 23 00:01:13.837 --> 00:01:15.349 I work for you. 24 00:01:15.349 --> 00:01:17.670 Now during this program we'll be exploring some caves 25 00:01:17.670 --> 00:01:21.271 in Ozark-St. Francis National Forest in northern Arkansas, 26 00:01:21.271 --> 00:01:24.452 and taking a look at some other caves around the country. 27 00:01:24.452 --> 00:01:26.385 - We're going to learn about how caves and karsts 28 00:01:26.385 --> 00:01:27.791 are pathways that connect us, 29 00:01:27.791 --> 00:01:30.679 as well as plants, animals, and water, 30 00:01:30.679 --> 00:01:32.852 to the world below. 31 00:01:32.852 --> 00:01:35.531 - Wait, caves and karsts? 32 00:01:35.531 --> 00:01:38.998 I know what a cave is, but what about karsts? 33 00:01:38.998 --> 00:01:41.893 - It's a landscape defined by caves, springs, 34 00:01:41.893 --> 00:01:44.243 sinkholes and disappearing streams, 35 00:01:44.243 --> 00:01:45.526 just like that one. 36 00:01:45.526 --> 00:01:47.532 You see how this tiny trickle goes into these rocks 37 00:01:47.532 --> 00:01:49.638 and just disappears? 38 00:01:49.638 --> 00:01:51.626 Like many places in the United States, 39 00:01:51.626 --> 00:01:53.683 this area is formed of limestone rock, 40 00:01:53.683 --> 00:01:55.237 and here is a map showing where to find 41 00:01:55.237 --> 00:01:57.444 caves and karsts across the country. 42 00:01:57.444 --> 00:01:59.007 If you're interested in caves like me, 43 00:01:59.007 --> 00:02:01.947 then there's probably one not too far from where you live 44 00:02:01.947 --> 00:02:03.352 that you could visit. 45 00:02:03.352 --> 00:02:06.516 The National Cave Association also has many great maps 46 00:02:06.516 --> 00:02:08.490 of where to find caves near you. 47 00:02:08.490 --> 00:02:11.775 - Hey, here's some folks going by right now. 48 00:02:11.775 --> 00:02:13.309 - Well they're going on a wild cave tour 49 00:02:13.309 --> 00:02:14.829 which means they'll get to crawl around 50 00:02:14.829 --> 00:02:16.669 and get a close look at the caverns. 51 00:02:16.669 --> 00:02:18.695 Caves are so much fun to explore. 52 00:02:18.695 --> 00:02:21.688 - Yeah, they're going to go underground? 53 00:02:21.688 --> 00:02:24.513 Like under all these big rocks? 54 00:02:24.513 --> 00:02:26.770 Yeah, I'm going to have to take your word 55 00:02:26.770 --> 00:02:27.888 on that about being fun. 56 00:02:27.888 --> 00:02:31.284 But how about you tell me why should care about caves. 57 00:02:31.284 --> 00:02:32.639 - Well knowing about caves and karsts 58 00:02:32.639 --> 00:02:34.582 is important for many reasons. 59 00:02:34.582 --> 00:02:36.461 Groundwater connects springs, wells, 60 00:02:36.461 --> 00:02:39.422 and other drinking water sources for people and wildlife, 61 00:02:39.422 --> 00:02:42.405 so we need to know about the geology of cave systems. 62 00:02:42.405 --> 00:02:45.133 Caves support unique biological communities, 63 00:02:45.133 --> 00:02:47.602 they provide information about human history, 64 00:02:47.602 --> 00:02:51.077 and many people find that caving is really interesting. 65 00:02:51.077 --> 00:02:53.327 - Yeah, I'm getting excited 66 00:02:54.176 --> 00:02:55.843 about learning more. 67 00:02:57.587 --> 00:02:58.920 - Alright, so let's go check in 68 00:02:58.920 --> 00:03:01.630 with a couple of scientists, right? 69 00:03:01.630 --> 00:03:03.540 Because they're going to talk to us a little bit more 70 00:03:03.540 --> 00:03:08.057 about why caves are such an important resource. 71 00:03:08.057 --> 00:03:09.706 Let's go meet Fernando Hernandez. 72 00:03:09.706 --> 00:03:11.890 He's one of our rockstar scientists. 73 00:03:11.890 --> 00:03:15.136 Because he's a geologist, rock-star. 74 00:03:15.136 --> 00:03:16.526 Alright, pardon the dad joke. 75 00:03:16.526 --> 00:03:18.045 Can you just tell us a little bit 76 00:03:18.045 --> 00:03:19.993 about the geology of this area? 77 00:03:19.993 --> 00:03:21.012 - Yeah, of course. 78 00:03:21.012 --> 00:03:22.328 The story about this area 79 00:03:22.328 --> 00:03:23.773 and many areas with limestone rock 80 00:03:23.773 --> 00:03:25.999 started millions and millions of years ago. 81 00:03:25.999 --> 00:03:27.668 Shallow seas once covered this area 82 00:03:27.668 --> 00:03:30.669 and the shells from critters in these shallow seas 83 00:03:30.669 --> 00:03:32.162 drifted to the bottom, 84 00:03:32.162 --> 00:03:34.461 then mixed with mud and organic matter 85 00:03:34.461 --> 00:03:37.317 that gradually compressed into layers of limestone. 86 00:03:37.317 --> 00:03:39.363 Then, over more millions of years, 87 00:03:39.363 --> 00:03:42.368 water flowed through the limestone to carve out caves. 88 00:03:42.368 --> 00:03:45.129 We've got a team of geologists and hydrologists here today 89 00:03:45.129 --> 00:03:47.114 studying how the water and air 90 00:03:47.114 --> 00:03:49.516 that we see, feel, and use on the surface, 91 00:03:49.516 --> 00:03:51.658 creates these fascinating places down below. 92 00:03:51.658 --> 00:03:54.128 As you mentioned, water is the critical ingredient 93 00:03:54.128 --> 00:03:57.311 that creates these features and connects to everything. 94 00:03:57.311 --> 00:03:59.084 You should go and talk to Johanna Kovarik. 95 00:03:59.084 --> 00:04:00.512 She's the cave and karsts coordinator 96 00:04:00.512 --> 00:04:02.298 of the U.S. Forest Service. 97 00:04:02.298 --> 00:04:04.737 See you guys inside the cave. 98 00:04:04.737 --> 00:04:05.586 - Hey Johanna. 99 00:04:05.586 --> 00:04:06.547 - Hey Amtchat. 100 00:04:06.547 --> 00:04:08.457 - Please tell me what's going on, 101 00:04:08.457 --> 00:04:10.167 because you're dressed like a canary in a mineshaft. 102 00:04:10.167 --> 00:04:12.047 Should I be concerned? 103 00:04:12.047 --> 00:04:13.612 - No, you should not be concerned. 104 00:04:13.612 --> 00:04:16.143 - So what do you have there? 105 00:04:16.143 --> 00:04:16.976 - This is the dye, 106 00:04:16.976 --> 00:04:18.630 we're going to put it in the water. 107 00:04:18.630 --> 00:04:19.463 Go ahead. 108 00:04:20.679 --> 00:04:23.303 One way to study where the water goes underground 109 00:04:23.303 --> 00:04:26.159 is to put non-harmful dye into the water. 110 00:04:26.159 --> 00:04:27.808 This shows us where the water goes 111 00:04:27.808 --> 00:04:29.583 and where it flows underground. 112 00:04:29.583 --> 00:04:33.246 - So why do we need to know exactly where the water goes? 113 00:04:33.246 --> 00:04:35.441 - By understanding where the groundwater flows 114 00:04:35.441 --> 00:04:37.246 we can help to protect its cleanliness 115 00:04:37.246 --> 00:04:40.366 not only for ourselves, but also for the environment. 116 00:04:40.366 --> 00:04:42.497 We can understand how karst features on the surface 117 00:04:42.497 --> 00:04:44.765 are connected with the world beneath our feet. 118 00:04:44.765 --> 00:04:46.624 - Oh I can't wait to see where that dye shows up. 119 00:04:46.624 --> 00:04:47.842 - Yeah, me too. 120 00:04:47.842 --> 00:04:48.976 Thanks Johanna. 121 00:04:48.976 --> 00:04:50.393 - You're welcome.